2.5 Deconversion: Personal Relationship (Part 2)
The beginning of my final battle with the professor and the professor’s perspective of the concept of a personal God. All excerpts used in this video are either copyright-free or covered under “fair use” in Title 17 ยง 107 of the USC. Music: “Recordare” by Libera “Agnus Dei, Op. 11″ by The Sixteen .
Wow!
I am just going to echo others on here. This is a great series. I would think that it would make a good documentary of sorts.
ten stars for this video
This really is a powerful series. I have learned alot from it. Even though I used to be a christian, I have been quick to forget my own mindset of when I believed. It is easy to feel zealous resentment for a faith that in hindsight appears so fake and artificial. This series has helped me regain some of my perspective of why I too used to believe. Thanks.
Perhaps Evidence’s statement reflects a central part of who he is, a genuine and worthwhile part. Perhaps the professor was responding to and admiring whatever was in Evidence that could produce such an exquisite statement. It may have reinforced his willingness to continue the exchange. I think most people have this “gem” inside whether they express it through religion or not.
Barber’s Adagio by the Trinity Boy’s Choir…
Nice.
The professor just knew that he didn’t want to fall into an easy stereotype for what he knows all believers think of atheists and skeptics.
The oblique praise turned Evid3nc3’s gambit of revealing his testimony against himself. In attacking it, the professor could only fuel Evid3nc3’s preconceived notions. By praising it in an unusual way, he forces him to reconsider it. A beautifully executed tactic.
Will the last video deal with logical arguments such as the Kalam Cosmological argument, the teleological argument, TAG, or the ontological argument? I would love to know what will come next.
Ouch, what an ending.
Again, thank you for sharing your journey. It reminds me so much of my own. Some people accept it at face value, while others are convinced that I was faking my Christianity for 25 years, most of it in ministry of one sort or another. These latter find it impossible to believe that one could be a “true” Christian and then cease to believe. Well, I used to be of the same mindset. I guess it is a psychological defensive mechanism. “He may have become an apostate, but I never could!”
Indeed, this is an amazing journey into the deconstruction of a belief. At every stage, he fights hard for his beliefs, but such a dedicated analysis cannot but close each door to his dogma forever. And sooner or later he will run out of doors.
great video
You know what? You really should make a DVD of this. We gotta find a way to get you more exposure…. Everyone copy this to Myspace and Facebook! Twitter it, whatever you can do. This is truly great and needs to be seen by other people.
@robertbently neither dawkins nor harris think that the reason why people are religious is because they are stupid.
maybe you should read one of dawkins books first on his explanation of how religion propagates.
Wow, very fast. Very nice as well. I love the time and dedication you put into each video. I can tell you truly think out each video.
Thank you so much for sharing this. This is beginning to feel like a Season of Dexter, in that I can’t wait to see the next one, but at the same time. I wanna save some so as not to spoil myself.
Well said bro. I too find this approach to be invaluable. This approach closely follows the professor’s “beautifully worded” treatment.
Evid3nc3 deserves much more exposure and much wider audience. The force is strong with this one.
Your wordings sound very genuine. And I can see you are a very intense person despite your appearance, and sound.
As always, a deeply fascinating and emotional video. I look forward to the next.
It might be worth clarifying that “Agnus Dei, Op. 11 by The Sixteen” is actually a composition by Samuel Barber and it’s performed by The Sixteen.
It’s the famous Molto Adagio movement from Barber’s String Quartet No. 1, Op. 11 that was later arranged by the composer as a choral version for the text of Agnus Dei.
You must know by now how much your videos mean to those of us especially who reached the same destination starting from a similar beginning but perhaps by a somewhat different path. Over many years I have been interested to hear this same story told by many different people because it is my story. But I have never heard it told so well.
i do’t know what to say. but most of the time the truth really hurts.
@robertbently that was a great observation brother…
SANCTIFIED DEFECATION! I know that all our experiences are different and we break out of our childhood indoctrination in different ways, or never suffer it at all, but your story is just fucking heartbreaking, at least for me. My own de-conversion was sudden, and involved a long period of time under cold water. For you….hellacious hera!….I couldn’t have endured how it happened for you. I’d have imploded, and destroyed myself from despair.
Thanks for another great video. I have wondered whether there was a word like simulacrum that better defines such a concept.
This is the story of so many of us…..we are all rising above this haze or shedding this old skin of religion….there is no doubt, this is OUR story….we are all in this together…….